- Jan 20, 2011
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So Orthodox bishops are *not*, as a matter of course and of policy, chosen from the ranks of the celibate priesthood (memories nothwithstanding)?ialmisry said:No. As a matter of fact, the Antiochian ones don't even take monastic vows if they are not already a monk.J Michael said:Was his wife alive when he became a bishop? If not, that would have made him celibate, at least in theory, at the time of his elevation to the episcopate.ialmisry said:
My understanding, and I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm wrong, is that bishops in the Orthodox Church are chosen from the ranks of the *celibate* priesthood.
Bp. Matthias' memory of his wife and his marriage I am sure was not wipped clean from his mind by his consecration.
What about this: "On the Eastern Orthodox side, it is sometimes forgotten that those who were called hiereus and sacerdos by the Fathers (i.e. the bishops) are also under a discipline of clerical celibacy . According to the canons, Orthodox bishops are elected from the monastic ranks, but in practice, celibate priests are often chosen as well. As a result, it is disingenuous to say that the question of clerical celibacy is only a Roman Catholic issue, especially because the Eastern discipline of episcopal celibacy has also been challenged by respected Orthodox bishops and theologians"?
Or this: "Priesthood, in all three of its degrees, according to the canonical tradition in force (canon 3 of the Council in Trullo), constitutes an impediment to marriage."?
There is also this discussion about bishops and celibacy: http://www.monachos.net/forum/showthread.php?2757-Why-are-bishops-celibate
Is it therefor not correct to state that it is the *norm*, in which there are exceptions, that Orthodox bishops are celibate and have been chosen from the ranks of celibate priests?
The fact of the matter is that most Orthodox bishops are celibate, and that there are a great number of celibate Orthodox priests. That being the case, how are they better qualified to discuss sexual matters than celibate Catholic priests and bishops, of whom you wrote that they are "... very much into speaking on sex acts of any sort, which they, natrually, [size=10pt]as being celibates[/size], know nothing about?"?