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The Commandments of Jesus Christ

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The purpose and point of this thread is to discuss and to learn and to teach the commandments of Jesus Christ to those who want to read and participate. I will go through the new testament and take them one by one. This is all voluntary, of your own free will, not mine. If it offends you or you are way beyond this in your life or for whatever reason this is not for you or to you liking...then do not come back on this thread and read it. I am going to post this on all the other Christian forums so if you believe posting the same gospel the commandments of Jesus Christ, right out of the bible all over the internet as spamming...then I would advice you to go take it up with the Lord. Because to me it is blessing.

We will start with this.

John, Chapter 14, 15: If ye love me, keep my commandments.

John, Chapter 14, 21: He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

John, Chapter 15, 10: If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
 

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If virtues can be commandments (or are sometimes synonymous), then this may help me go more presicely in the right direction...
 

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St. John is using 'entoli': a common Greek word meaning a pronouncement from somebody in charge, such as a direction from a field general. I'm not saying it ought to be translated "orders" rather than "commandments"; I'm just revealing some of my own thought process when I consider what "commandments" does mean (a very uncommon word in English, outside of Biblespeak where it tends to mean The Ten Commandments). At any rate:

-- If we remember the Lord is a living Master, we who are his slaves (douloi, as he so often termed his followers) can expect to be taking orders from him day-to-day.

However, such orders will undoubtedly be consistent with Christ's reported teaching (and with the Fathers and tradition). Some of what is written that enters my mind are the so-called Sermon on the Mount and Sermon of the Sheep and the Goats ("works of mercy" sermon, to some).

Above all, I think of "Love one another," repeated in various forms throughout the Gospel passage your quotes come from, and of John the Theologian's letters explaining that the commandment is to love.

Warning: I am not Orthodox yet and don't have an Orthodox background.
 

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Stephen Levi said:
The purpose and point of this thread is to discuss and to learn and to teach the commandments of Jesus Christ to those who want to read and participate. I will go through the new testament and take them one by one. This is all voluntary, of your own free will, not mine. If it offends you or you are way beyond this in your life or for whatever reason this is not for you or to you liking...then do not come back on this thread and read it. I am going to post this on all the other Christian forums so if you believe posting the same gospel the commandments of Jesus Christ, right out of the bible all over the internet as spamming...then I would advice you to go take it up with the Lord. Because to me it is blessing.

We will start with this.

John, Chapter 14, 15: If ye love me, keep my commandments.

John, Chapter 14, 21: He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

John, Chapter 15, 10: If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
Indeed!  The sad state of Christians today is that with all the divisions, there are a huge chunk that do not keep His commandments.  For Christ promised us that the gates of Hades shall not prevail against the Church.

One wonders then, when Christ left, Christ had to have entrusted His commandments to the Apostles.  The Apostles also entrusted the commandments to bishops, presbyters, and deacons.  Christ commanded us to eat His body and drink His blood.  Christ commanded us to baptize in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Indeed Christ commanded many things, and we still fall short.  May the Lord have mercy on us all that we may return to follow His commandments, which the Apostles shared with us, and which were maintained by the ancient Church throughout the centuries, where Hades never prevailed against.
 

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Bah! You are right. I can't even keep the one: "This is my commandment: love one another as I love you."  :(
 

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Justin Kolodziej said:
Bah! You are right. I can't even keep the one: "This is my commandment: love one another as I love you."  :(
If you can't obey the simple and the least greatest of them, then you surely will not obey the greatest of them all.
 

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Stephen Levi said:
Justin Kolodziej said:
Bah! You are right. I can't even keep the one: "This is my commandment: love one another as I love you."  :(
If you can't obey the simple and the least greatest of them, then you surely will not obey the greatest of them all.
Perhaps you could provide us with some tips on how to keep the commandments?
 

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TheTrisagion said:
Stephen Levi said:
Justin Kolodziej said:
Bah! You are right. I can't even keep the one: "This is my commandment: love one another as I love you."  :(
If you can't obey the simple and the least greatest of them, then you surely will not obey the greatest of them all.
Perhaps you could provide us with some tips on how to keep the commandments?
I will do so for you when we reach that point in the order of the thread.
 

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Stephen Levi said:
The purpose and point of this thread is to discuss and to learn and to teach the commandments of Jesus Christ to those who want to read and participate. I will go through the new testament and take them one by one. This is all voluntary, of your own free will, not mine. If it offends you or you are way beyond this in your life or for whatever reason this is not for you or to you liking...then do not come back on this thread and read it. I am going to post this on all the other Christian forums so if you believe posting the same gospel the commandments of Jesus Christ, right out of the bible all over the internet as spamming...then I would advice you to go take it up with the Lord. Because to me it is blessing.

We will start with this.

John, Chapter 14, 15: If ye love me, keep my commandments.

John, Chapter 14, 21: He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

John, Chapter 15, 10: If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
John, Chapter 14, 15: If ye love me, keep my commandments.


If you do not keep the commandments of Jesus Christ,
you do not love, Jesus Christ.


True or false?
 

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Stephen Levi said:
TheTrisagion said:
Stephen Levi said:
Justin Kolodziej said:
Bah! You are right. I can't even keep the one: "This is my commandment: love one another as I love you."  :(
If you can't obey the simple and the least greatest of them, then you surely will not obey the greatest of them all.
Perhaps you could provide us with some tips on how to keep the commandments?
I will do so for you when we reach that point in the order of the thread.
Could you provide an outline to the thread so we can know what we should be discussing when?
 

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Stephen Levi said:
Stephen Levi said:
The purpose and point of this thread is to discuss and to learn and to teach the commandments of Jesus Christ to those who want to read and participate. I will go through the new testament and take them one by one. This is all voluntary, of your own free will, not mine. If it offends you or you are way beyond this in your life or for whatever reason this is not for you or to you liking...then do not come back on this thread and read it. I am going to post this on all the other Christian forums so if you believe posting the same gospel the commandments of Jesus Christ, right out of the bible all over the internet as spamming...then I would advice you to go take it up with the Lord. Because to me it is blessing.

We will start with this.

John, Chapter 14, 15: If ye love me, keep my commandments.

John, Chapter 14, 21: He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

John, Chapter 15, 10: If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
John, Chapter 14, 15: If ye love me, keep my commandments.


If you do not keep the commandments of Jesus Christ,
you do not love, Jesus Christ.


True or false?
I don't think the logic quite follows. If my children don't obey what I tell them, it doesn't mean they don't love me, but I might tell them if they love me they need to do what I am instructing them to do. That is what Christ is saying.
 

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TheTrisagion said:
Stephen Levi said:
Stephen Levi said:
The purpose and point of this thread is to discuss and to learn and to teach the commandments of Jesus Christ to those who want to read and participate. I will go through the new testament and take them one by one. This is all voluntary, of your own free will, not mine. If it offends you or you are way beyond this in your life or for whatever reason this is not for you or to you liking...then do not come back on this thread and read it. I am going to post this on all the other Christian forums so if you believe posting the same gospel the commandments of Jesus Christ, right out of the bible all over the internet as spamming...then I would advice you to go take it up with the Lord. Because to me it is blessing.

We will start with this.

John, Chapter 14, 15: If ye love me, keep my commandments.

John, Chapter 14, 21: He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

John, Chapter 15, 10: If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
John, Chapter 14, 15: If ye love me, keep my commandments.


If you do not keep the commandments of Jesus Christ,
you do not love, Jesus Christ.


True or false?
I don't think the logic quite follows. If my children don't obey what I tell them, it doesn't mean they don't love me, but I might tell them if they love me they need to do what I am instructing them to do. That is what Christ is saying.
You are not God and your children are not you.
 

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this isn't going anywhere fast. So who out there can truly say they are keeping the first and greatest commandment? "Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD alone! Therefore, you shall love the LORD, your God, with your whole heart, and with your whole being, and with your whole strength." Or the second like it? "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."
 

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Stephen Levi said:
TheTrisagion said:
I agree. I am just saying I think your logic is flawed.
Show us the flaw.
Are you referring to yourself in the plural, Stephen?
 

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John, Chapter 15, 10: If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.


The ONLY way anyone, can abide in the love of Jesus Christ,
is to keep the Commandments of Jesus Christ, as Jesus Christ
kept the commandments of God, His Father.

True or false?
 

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Its like a 'choose your own adventure' book. Except all the options take us to the same page: 'Oops! You're dead.'
 

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Its like a 'choose your own adventure' book. Except all the options take us to the same page: 'Oops! You're dead.'
I miss those books.
 

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Stephen Levi said:
The purpose and point of this thread is to discuss and to learn and to teach the commandments of Jesus Christ to those who want to read and participate. I will go through the new testament and take them one by one. This is all voluntary, of your own free will, not mine. If it offends you or you are way beyond this in your life or for whatever reason this is not for you or to you liking...then do not come back on this thread and read it. I am going to post this on all the other Christian forums so if you believe posting the same gospel the commandments of Jesus Christ, right out of the bible all over the internet as spamming...then I would advice you to go take it up with the Lord. Because to me it is blessing.

We will start with this.

John, Chapter 14, 15: If ye love me, keep my commandments.

John, Chapter 14, 21: He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

John, Chapter 15, 10: If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
We will start with this.

John, Chapter 14, 15: If ye love me, keep my commandments.

John, Chapter 14, 21: He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

John, Chapter 15, 10: If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

John, Chapter 14, 15: If ye love me, keep my commandments.


If you do not keep the commandments of Jesus Christ,
you do not love, Jesus Christ.


True or false?


The gospel of Jesus Christ is his commandments.

When you repent you are to do what?

OBEY HIS COMMANDMENTS

The Commandments of Jesus Christ

is

the way

the life

the truth.

The commandments of Jesus Christ

is eternal life.

The Salvation of God.




 

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Umm, Stephen, repeatedly posting verses from scripture is not a discussion, it's a monologue. Get to the point of the thread, please.
 

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Umm, Stephen, repeatedly posting verses from scripture is not a discussion, it's a monologue. Get to the point of the thread, please.
You are in extreme trouble with the Lord. He said to me to tell you
that you are soon to get a visitation.
 

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Stephen Levi said:
LBK said:
Umm, Stephen, repeatedly posting verses from scripture is not a discussion, it's a monologue. Get to the point of the thread, please.
You are in extreme trouble with the Lord. He said to me to tell you
that you are soon to get a visitation.
Am I supposed to be frightened by what you've just said? Sorry, don't buy it. I don't know what "lord" or "god" you're listening to.
 

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Stephen Levi said:
LBK said:
Umm, Stephen, repeatedly posting verses from scripture is not a discussion, it's a monologue. Get to the point of the thread, please.
You are in extreme trouble with the Lord. He said to me to tell you
that you are soon to get a visitation.
I would urge you to read Job 13:1-19.  Verse 5, especially.
 

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hecma925 said:
Stephen Levi said:
LBK said:
Umm, Stephen, repeatedly posting verses from scripture is not a discussion, it's a monologue. Get to the point of the thread, please.
You are in extreme trouble with the Lord. He said to me to tell you
that you are soon to get a visitation.
I would urge you to read Job 13:1-19.  Verse 5, especially.
Now why would Stephen want to do that, hecma? He has a direct line to God.  :p ::)
 

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LBK said:
hecma925 said:
Stephen Levi said:
LBK said:
Umm, Stephen, repeatedly posting verses from scripture is not a discussion, it's a monologue. Get to the point of the thread, please.
You are in extreme trouble with the Lord. He said to me to tell you
that you are soon to get a visitation.
I would urge you to read Job 13:1-19.  Verse 5, especially.
He has a direct line to God.  :p ::)
This is correct.  I am in direct contact by the Holy Ghost with God at all times.
 

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LBK said:
hecma925 said:
Stephen Levi said:
LBK said:
Umm, Stephen, repeatedly posting verses from scripture is not a discussion, it's a monologue. Get to the point of the thread, please.
You are in extreme trouble with the Lord. He said to me to tell you
that you are soon to get a visitation.
I would urge you to read Job 13:1-19.  Verse 5, especially.
Now why would Stephen want to do that, hecma? He has a direct line to God.  :p ::)
Then he wouldn't even need to look it up. ;)
 

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Stephen Levi said:
LBK said:
hecma925 said:
Stephen Levi said:
LBK said:
Umm, Stephen, repeatedly posting verses from scripture is not a discussion, it's a monologue. Get to the point of the thread, please.
You are in extreme trouble with the Lord. He said to me to tell you
that you are soon to get a visitation.
I would urge you to read Job 13:1-19.  Verse 5, especially.
He has a direct line to God.  :p ::)
This is correct.  I am in direct contact by the Holy Ghost with God at all times.
Via the Mainline?
 

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Stephen Levi said:
LBK said:
hecma925 said:
Stephen Levi said:
LBK said:
Umm, Stephen, repeatedly posting verses from scripture is not a discussion, it's a monologue. Get to the point of the thread, please.
You are in extreme trouble with the Lord. He said to me to tell you
that you are soon to get a visitation.
I would urge you to read Job 13:1-19.  Verse 5, especially.
He has a direct line to God.  :p ::)
This is correct.  I am in direct contact by the Holy Ghost with God at all times.
Is there someone to whom we can talk to verify that you're telling us the truth? So far it seems that the only evidence you've given us is "because I say so".
 

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PeterTheAleut said:
Stephen Levi said:
LBK said:
hecma925 said:
Stephen Levi said:
LBK said:
Umm, Stephen, repeatedly posting verses from scripture is not a discussion, it's a monologue. Get to the point of the thread, please.
You are in extreme trouble with the Lord. He said to me to tell you
that you are soon to get a visitation.
I would urge you to read Job 13:1-19.  Verse 5, especially.
He has a direct line to God.  :p ::)
This is correct.  I am in direct contact by the Holy Ghost with God at all times.
Is there someone to whom we can talk to verify that you're telling us the truth? So far it seems that the only evidence you've given us is "because I say so".
The evidence is here, you just are to carnal to see it.
 

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Even if the Lord would send his angel to you, you still could not believe.
 

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Stephen Levi said:
PeterTheAleut said:
Stephen Levi said:
LBK said:
hecma925 said:
Stephen Levi said:
LBK said:
Umm, Stephen, repeatedly posting verses from scripture is not a discussion, it's a monologue. Get to the point of the thread, please.
You are in extreme trouble with the Lord. He said to me to tell you
that you are soon to get a visitation.
I would urge you to read Job 13:1-19.  Verse 5, especially.
He has a direct line to God.  :p ::)
This is correct.  I am in direct contact by the Holy Ghost with God at all times.
Is there someone to whom we can talk to verify that you're telling us the truth? So far it seems that the only evidence you've given us is "because I say so".
The evidence is here, you just are to carnal to see it.
What does it mean "to carnal"?  I carnal, you carnal, we shan't carnal, they are carnaling?
 

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Even if the Lord would send his angel to you, you still could not believe.
2 Corinthians 11:14 - I'll save you the trouble in case your spirit is on call waiting:


And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light
 

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hecma925 said:
Stephen Levi said:
PeterTheAleut said:
Stephen Levi said:
LBK said:
hecma925 said:
Stephen Levi said:
LBK said:
Umm, Stephen, repeatedly posting verses from scripture is not a discussion, it's a monologue. Get to the point of the thread, please.
You are in extreme trouble with the Lord. He said to me to tell you
that you are soon to get a visitation.
I would urge you to read Job 13:1-19.  Verse 5, especially.
He has a direct line to God.  :p ::)
This is correct.  I am in direct contact by the Holy Ghost with God at all times.
Is there someone to whom we can talk to verify that you're telling us the truth? So far it seems that the only evidence you've given us is "because I say so".
The evidence is here, you just are to carnal to see it.
What does it mean "to carnal"?  I carnal, you carnal, we shan't carnal, they are carnaling?
I am not your teacher.
 

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At least he used past tense, so you are free to participate in future threads.
 
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