Having looked at this issue pretty thoroughly over the last few years I have come to the conclusion that this movement was first a fluke. The impetus that started this nightmare had innocent aims. These aims were dismissed and was instead manipulated, fabricated into something else.
That 'something else' is what we now know as the crusades.
It is the early impetus that appears to be the work of Constatinople when a letter was sent to France requesting help from what was beleived to be a possible Muslim attack on the Holy City. That was all that was at issue. After some time the letter was not answered and at any rate the "attack" did not even occur.
Oops...never mind!
But a new bishop came to power (Archbishop of Claireveaue?) in France. This man had the thirst for power of the wordly sort. He got his hands on the old letter from the Patriarch of Constantinople and used it to fan a wide range attack on the "Holy land".
Of course that WAS NOT what Constantinople was talking about and what they were talking about was already handled.
This gross manipulation began the blood bath that ripped a line of a destruction from France clear through Europe to the east to Costantinople across the basforus..into Asia minor and all the way up to Jerusalem. Utter madness.
When the first wave of lost souls finally made it up to Jerusalem the Church was sound and peaceful in good relations with Arab Muslims and Jews. Each tolerating the other.
These zombies figured well "we are here now" and began to do what only a Godless gutless sub-human could do best SLAUGHTER AND KILL IN MASS NUMBERS MEN WOMEN AND CHILDREN.....A L L Orthodox Christians.
Of course we all know that this is why we have such hate form Muslims and Arabs toward the west. This also started what people call anti-semitism today. while still in Europe it seems that first wave of killers decided to maul and kill European Jews since they were the ones who had killed Christ in the first place.
So we are seeing and feeling the results of the crusades even in our time.
In my mind these people were protestant albeit IN nature. This "nature" spurned the lutherite idealism and the subsequent FORMALIzation we call the protestant movement. So yes Luther started the 'movement' under the banner "protestant"...BUT NOT the precepts, mindset, which existed long before.
My point is protestantism is not a popular word or movement. What it really is is what makes a movement move. It is the aim and intent of mind.
The recklessness that we find in the crusades are the main building blocks of what would be formally the protestant movement.
Rebellion against the Church of God....a protestant main attribute.
The crusader forces were all rebells. Killing Christians enmass.
Even Sala-aadin who finally flushed these Godless people out of Jerusalem around the 10th century also removed ALL christians from the Holy City...exception!! ONLY the Orthodox could stay as they were 100 years before. Sala-aadin appointed a muslim family to keep the Christian safe. They held the key to the main doors of the main Church of Holy Sepulcher and continues to this day to open and close the doors.
Even a Muslim knew who the real Christians were.
That 'something else' is what we now know as the crusades.
It is the early impetus that appears to be the work of Constatinople when a letter was sent to France requesting help from what was beleived to be a possible Muslim attack on the Holy City. That was all that was at issue. After some time the letter was not answered and at any rate the "attack" did not even occur.
Oops...never mind!
But a new bishop came to power (Archbishop of Claireveaue?) in France. This man had the thirst for power of the wordly sort. He got his hands on the old letter from the Patriarch of Constantinople and used it to fan a wide range attack on the "Holy land".
Of course that WAS NOT what Constantinople was talking about and what they were talking about was already handled.
This gross manipulation began the blood bath that ripped a line of a destruction from France clear through Europe to the east to Costantinople across the basforus..into Asia minor and all the way up to Jerusalem. Utter madness.
When the first wave of lost souls finally made it up to Jerusalem the Church was sound and peaceful in good relations with Arab Muslims and Jews. Each tolerating the other.
These zombies figured well "we are here now" and began to do what only a Godless gutless sub-human could do best SLAUGHTER AND KILL IN MASS NUMBERS MEN WOMEN AND CHILDREN.....A L L Orthodox Christians.
Of course we all know that this is why we have such hate form Muslims and Arabs toward the west. This also started what people call anti-semitism today. while still in Europe it seems that first wave of killers decided to maul and kill European Jews since they were the ones who had killed Christ in the first place.
So we are seeing and feeling the results of the crusades even in our time.
In my mind these people were protestant albeit IN nature. This "nature" spurned the lutherite idealism and the subsequent FORMALIzation we call the protestant movement. So yes Luther started the 'movement' under the banner "protestant"...BUT NOT the precepts, mindset, which existed long before.
My point is protestantism is not a popular word or movement. What it really is is what makes a movement move. It is the aim and intent of mind.
The recklessness that we find in the crusades are the main building blocks of what would be formally the protestant movement.
Rebellion against the Church of God....a protestant main attribute.
The crusader forces were all rebells. Killing Christians enmass.
Even Sala-aadin who finally flushed these Godless people out of Jerusalem around the 10th century also removed ALL christians from the Holy City...exception!! ONLY the Orthodox could stay as they were 100 years before. Sala-aadin appointed a muslim family to keep the Christian safe. They held the key to the main doors of the main Church of Holy Sepulcher and continues to this day to open and close the doors.
Even a Muslim knew who the real Christians were.