- Jul 5, 2009
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I agree with you. There are just so many loopholes and loose ends in Orthodoxy that its hard for even your most anti ultramontanist RC to fathom. We preffer to believe that God would not leave so many questions which are of a vital nature for believers to be left unanswered by his Church. It sometimes seems to RC's that Orthodoxy, although having valid orders and and ecclesiastical structure, still seem more theologically like Protestants. The Prots look at Christianity as a philosophy which can be picked up by anyone and transmitted to the world through some type of church structure (Without holy orders, the Mass, etc...). Orthodoxy, while having canonical structures like Bishops, priest, and synods still tend to leave too many important questions unanswered and thus up for the private interpretation of her members. While I don't think the Church should just smother her members with an all encompassing set of rules and regulations about everything, I still can't believe that the Church which was truly founded by God and is supposed to be his voice on Earth would leave so much up for grabs.WetCatechumen said:What you're missing is that I've no idea what Orthodox believe on these things:ialmisry said:The Spirit is descended!
Sure, proving how useless Pastor Aeternus is and how hollow the boasting of "infallibility" of the supreme pontiff that we are told we are missing.Peter J said:As I'm sure you're already aware, Vatican I said that ex cathedra statements are infallible, but it never said how many there have been, or even whether there have been any.ialmisry said:The Spirit is descended!
The Vatican's supreme pontiff Gregory VII, ex cathedra, disagreed:Peter J said:There's really no official Catholic position regarding the possibility of the Pope falling into heresy. Some say that he could, and he would then automatically cease to be pope. Some say that it's impossible for him to fall into heresy. Neither of these are mandatory Catholic beliefs.
2) Birth Control
3) Transubstantiation vs. Consubstantiation or Sacramental Union
4) Validity of Holy Orders outside the Greek Church and its offshoots
5) The legitimacy of the Filioque as interpreted in light of the misunderstandings in translation
6) Whether or not Orthodox and Catholic Christians can commune from the same chalice
7) Which autokephalous Greek churches are canonical or not
Every bishop is an island.
It drives me nuts. And sure, you can supply an answer - but there are Orthodox bishops who would disagree with you on each count.
It's impossible to get a straight answer.
Just confuses me and the other RC's.