Isn't that **** convenient? I've always been bothered by the "God Logic" b.s. and how God's ways are above man's ways blah blah. It's always brought up right around the point that the circular argument has come full. Seems like a cop out to me.Shanghaiski said:People judge God because of hell's very existence. The particular and final judgments exist because of free will. It is not for you, as a catechumen, or for me as a communicant, to edit the teachings of the Church, whether they relate to dogma or are theological opinions taught by the saints, simply because they do not square with our own opinions of how we think things are or should be. Rather, we need to show some humility before the Church, our mother and teacher, and if there is something we cannot grasp or understand, instead or rebelling against it or calling it stupid, we should remind ourselves that we, by ourselves, do not have all the answers, and to us it is not given to comprehend all of the mysteries of God.Achronos said:So explain exactly why the soul would have to endure 'spiritual' tests before being accepted into Heaven, so you get all the way to the final tollhouse and then somehow you don't pass and your soul gets dragged into Hell.Shanghaiski said:That shows the spirit of a catechumen!
That's not the God of love that I know of.
If ever I were tempted to hold up my fingers in front of me in the sign of the "A" (for atheist) to ward off the demonic, it would be now, being faced with the proposition that I surrender my mind - for to surrender my mind is to surrender my life
Blasphemy removed from post -PtA
I've already had to modify one of your posts to edit out a profanity, which makes this the second offense. I also don't care what you think of our religion; we do not permit such blasphemous use of God's Name on this forum. As such, you are receiving this warning to last for the next two weeks. If you continue to use such obscene and blasphemous language on this forum, further disciplinary action will be taken against you, to include post moderation, muting, or banning. If you feel this action wrong, feel free to appeal it via private message to Fr. George.