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Cyrillic said:
Yes. I noticed that it has become your mission to correct that mistake  :)
Actually, I think I'm just behind-the-times. A few years ago it was a pretty widespread struggle between people who say "22 Eastern Catholic Rites" and people who correct people who say "22 Eastern Catholic Rites".
 

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Peter J said:
One thing I've learned is that there isn't enough time in life to correct all the mistakes people make. Personally, I think "My Church is a Church, not a Rite" is a higher priority than "It's not Mass, its Divine Liturgy." 
Well, it is a Rite ;)
 

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Andrew Crook said:
You're right about the RCs telling the ECs, they should believe everything the Romans teach.  I have even talked to some RCs (i.e. PJM) who cannot honestly understand why Eastern theology is so contradictory to what Rome teaches and yet they are still in "communion" with the Latin church.
Its like forcing two opposing magnets together.  You can do it but with much difficulty...
 

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Dear CAF,

This is what your Pope thinks what a non-Catholic forum should look like:



The Orthodox gets to sit at his right hand.  ;)
 

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JoeS2 said:
J Michael said:
JoeS2 said:
Quite frankly, I don't know why we even bother....
The same thought has crossed my mind more than once.
Finally, something we can agree on.....
A Lenten miracle!! ;D ;D

(Hey, there's always something we can find to agree on, just that on this forum it proves somewhat challenging  ;).)
 

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I just visited CAF and there was a debate on the filioque (those are fun  ::)) and someone quoted the filioque in the Athanasian creed and asked whether the Orthodox call St. Athanasius a lier. I wanted to smash my head through the computer screen.

To be fair through, an Orthodox Christian responded by saying that St. Athanasius was not infallible. I'm not going back again to CAF. I think I prefer the maps to remarks as intelligent as these.
 

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Cyrillic said:
I just visited CAF and there was a debate on the filioque (those are fun  ::)) and someone quoted the filioque in the Athanasian creed and asked whether the Orthodox call St. Athanasius a lier. I wanted to smash my head through the computer screen.

To be fair through, an Orthodox Christian responded by saying that St. Athanasius was not infallible. I'm not going back again to CAF. I think I prefer the maps to remarks as intelligent as these.
I've never been on CAF, mainly because my closest connection to Roman Catholicism is via my grandmother so I never really felt like it was 'my place'. A couple of time Catholic acquaintances here and elsewhere have suggested I go and see (years ago it has to be said) - looking at this thread, it seems I did the wise thing in declining.

James
 

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By the way, the only one who gave the correct answer to the rhetorical question of the Latin was our very own dzheremi. He was the only one who was able to point out that the Athanasian Creed is a forgery. Dzheremi saved my head and my computer screen  :)
 

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Cyrillic said:
I just visited CAF and there was a debate on the filioque (those are fun  ::)) and someone quoted the filioque in the Athanasian creed
Actually, it says that Spirit is "of the Father and of the Son; neither made, nor created, nor begotten; but proceeding" ("Spiritus Sanctus a Patre et Filio: non factus, nec creatus, nec genitus, sed procedens.")

Or at least, that's how I first learned it, and Wikipedia agrees.
 

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I meant the doctrine, not the actual wording. I knew that it used et filio (Really!  :p)
 

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Cyrillic said:
By the way, the only one who gave the correct answer to the rhetorical question of the Latin was our very own dzheremi. He was the only one who was able to point out that the Athanasian Creed is a forgery. Dzheremi saved my head and my computer screen  :)
It's funny...I thought that was common knowledge, but maybe it isn't on internet forums. I remember when they taught us the "Athanasian" Creed when I was RC, they said it was attributed to him by medieval RC tradition (pretty much what I said in the post). There's nothing at all to indicate that it is related to him outside of that.
 

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dzheremi said:
Cyrillic said:
By the way, the only one who gave the correct answer to the rhetorical question of the Latin was our very own dzheremi. He was the only one who was able to point out that the Athanasian Creed is a forgery. Dzheremi saved my head and my computer screen  :)
It's funny...I thought that was common knowledge, but maybe it isn't on internet forums. I remember when they taught us the "Athanasian" Creed when I was RC, they said it was attributed to him by medieval RC tradition (pretty much what I said in the post). There's nothing at all to indicate that it is related to him outside of that.
The things I have read about the "Athanasian Creed" indicate that it was written in southern France sometime in the late fifth or early sixth century, a hundred or more years after the time of St. Athanasios.
 

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Apotheoun said:
dzheremi said:
Cyrillic said:
By the way, the only one who gave the correct answer to the rhetorical question of the Latin was our very own dzheremi. He was the only one who was able to point out that the Athanasian Creed is a forgery. Dzheremi saved my head and my computer screen  :)
It's funny...I thought that was common knowledge, but maybe it isn't on internet forums. I remember when they taught us the "Athanasian" Creed when I was RC, they said it was attributed to him by medieval RC tradition (pretty much what I said in the post). There's nothing at all to indicate that it is related to him outside of that.
The things I have read about the "Athanasian Creed" indicate that it was written in southern France sometime in the late fifth or early sixth century, a hundred or more years after the time of St. Athanasios.
I've read that it was written in Vandal-occupied North-Africa. In either case the document wasn't written by St. Athanasius.
 
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