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Glory to Jesus Christ!

Would it be okay to venerate a Saint a Martyr from the 2-3 century who as far as I can tell is not officially venerated in the Orthodox Church?
 

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IMO yes. Who is he?
 

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In your private devotion you can venerate anyone you want, even non-Orthodox people you felt were holy in their lives. And Orthodox martyrs especially, that's just fine, from what I've heard.
 

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Ditto what has been said... yes, who is he? private devotion just fine...
 

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bogdan said:
In your private devotion you can venerate anyone you want, even non-Orthodox people you felt were holy in their lives. And Orthodox martyrs especially, that's just fine, from what I've heard.
You can venerate non-Orthodox?
 

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Altar Server said:
Genesius of Rome (I think I spelled that right)
There are 4 Genesius on the Orthodox Calendar

3 June
1 November
25 August
11 October


Do you know if your Saint is one of these?

http://www.allmercifulsavior.com/Calendar/St.%20Hilarion%20Calendar%202003%20Part%202.pdf
 

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JamesRottnek said:
bogdan said:
In your private devotion you can venerate anyone you want, even non-Orthodox people you felt were holy in their lives. And Orthodox martyrs especially, that's just fine, from what I've heard.
You can venerate non-Orthodox?
If we are talking about people who led orthodox lives but were not officially affiliated with the Eastern Orthodox Church, then as far as I know yes (St. Isaac the Syrian is perhaps the best example).
 

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Asteriktos said:
JamesRottnek said:
bogdan said:
In your private devotion you can venerate anyone you want, even non-Orthodox people you felt were holy in their lives. And Orthodox martyrs especially, that's just fine, from what I've heard.
You can venerate non-Orthodox?
If we are talking about people who led orthodox lives but were not officially affiliated with the Eastern Orthodox Church, then as far as I know yes (St. Isaac the Syrian is perhaps the best example).
I remember that a very credible rebuttal to this is contained in the lengthy introduction to Saint Isaac's "Ascetical Homilies" published by Holy Transfiguration Monastery in 1984.  But it is so long since I have read it that the substance of their arguments has slipped my mind.
 

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The OrthodoxWiki article is pretty helpful:

http://orthodoxwiki.org/Genesius_of_Rome
 

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Irish Hermit said:
I remember that a very credible rebuttal to this is contained in the lengthy introduction to Saint Isaac's "Ascetical Homilies" published by Holy Transfiguration Monastery in 1984.  But it is so long since I have read it that the substance of their arguments has slipped my mind.
Interesting, whenever I get something by/about St. Isaac I will try to get this particular translation so I can read about this.
 
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