Was the Protestant Reformation necessary?

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kx9 said:
Since many of you feel that the Refomation was necessary, but not done correctly, how would it have been if the EOC had carried out the Reformation against the Roman Catholic Church instead of the Protestants in the 16th Century?
What do you mean by that? How one can reform something from the outside?
 

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Michał Kalina said:
kx9 said:
Since many of you feel that the Refomation was necessary, but not done correctly, how would it have been if the EOC had carried out the Reformation against the Roman Catholic Church instead of the Protestants in the 16th Century?
What do you mean by that? How one can reform something from the outside?
As far as I see, a Reformation can be carried out from inside or outside. It doesn't make a difference.
 

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Michał Kalina said:
What point would have the Orthodox Church have had in reforming Roman Church?
Some Orthodox posters on this thread think the Reformation was needed, but you think it wasn't needed at all.

Remember, the EOC and the RCC were One Church before 1054 A.D.
A reunification is required because the Word of God speaks out against divisions in the Body of Christ.

If the Orthodox Church had carried out the Reformation instead, it might have prevented the splitting of several denominations in Christianity.
 

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kx9 said:
Michał Kalina said:
What point would have the Orthodox Church have had in reforming Roman Church?
Some Orthodox posters on this thread think the Reformation was needed, but you think it wasn't needed at all.

Remember, the EOC and the RCC were One Church before 1054 A.D.
A reunification is required because the Word of God speaks out against divisions in the Body of Christ.

If the Orthodox Church had carried out the Reformation instead, it might have prevented the splitting of several denominations in Christianity.
Ever heard of the Tourkokratia?
 

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Cyrillic said:
kx9 said:
Michał Kalina said:
What point would have the Orthodox Church have had in reforming Roman Church?
Some Orthodox posters on this thread think the Reformation was needed, but you think it wasn't needed at all.

Remember, the EOC and the RCC were One Church before 1054 A.D.
A reunification is required because the Word of God speaks out against divisions in the Body of Christ.

If the Orthodox Church had carried out the Reformation instead, it might have prevented the splitting of several denominations in Christianity.
Ever heard of the Tourkokratia?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourkokratia

It is a lengthy topic. I was expecting a definition there in a couple of sentences.

Anyway it doesn't look relevant to this thread.
 

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kx9 said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourkokratia

It is a lengthy topic. I was expecting a definition there in a couple of sentences.

Anyway it doesn't look relevant to this thread.
It is quite relevant, actually.

At the time of the Reformation, the traditional Orthodox lands were under Ottoman occupation and the Church was dealing with various levels of suppression and persecution. Add to that the bad blood between East and West since the sack of Constantinople (1204 CE), and the chance of overtures towards the West was nil.

There's your two sentences; hope they help.
 

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Michał Kalina said:
Arachne said:
At the time of the Reformation, the traditional Orthodox lands were under Ottoman occupation
Like Muscovia, GDL...
Very much controlled by RC Poland. Of all people here you should know that.
 

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Michał Kalina said:
Arachne said:
At the time of the Reformation, the traditional Orthodox lands were under Ottoman occupation
Like Muscovia, GDL...
Too busy fighting Tatars, Lithuanians and other local dukes to expand its borders eastwards. ::)
 

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Arachne said:
kx9 said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourkokratia

It is a lengthy topic. I was expecting a definition there in a couple of sentences.

Anyway it doesn't look relevant to this thread.
It is quite relevant, actually.

At the time of the Reformation, the traditional Orthodox lands were under Ottoman occupation and the Church was dealing with various levels of suppression and persecution. Add to that the bad blood between East and West since the sack of Constantinople (1204 CE), and the chance of overtures towards the West was nil.

There's your two sentences; hope they help.
Thanks for pointing it out.

However, I'd like some clarification.

When you said "Church" You were referring to the EOC ?
 

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kx9 said:
From an Eastern Orthodox viewpoint, was the Protestant Reformation of the 16th Century necessary?

Please write yes or no, along with any comments.
I would say no. That is, there were problems, but the route that was taken wasn't a solution, and actually just created more problems. There had already been theological disagreements about things like papal supremacy in the west (e.g. at Basel in the 15th century), this route could have been pursued further.
 
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