- Apr 28, 2013
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I'm about to read The General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money.
Partially, but I still prefer Álvaro Campos among the heteronyms and the works actually signed by Pessoa even more. Have you? He's my favourite writer!Porter ODoran said:Have you read his Livro do Desassossego?
Yes I have what's here called his Book of Disquiet from my Brasilian friend. I used to find it affecting, but now I'm too old. She also sent me some of his English poems by e-mail.RaphaCam said:
Take your time. You'll get your head wrapped around English eventually.Iconodule said:
Don't you think you've taken this Rumspringa thing a bit too far? Maybe it's time to log off and churn the butter.Porter ODoran said:Take your time. You'll get your head wrapped around English eventually.Iconodule said:
I will do as my priest asks, and I do keep a notebook of when disagreements arise or what is beneficial which I will share with him. Maybe I need to humble myself more, I want to start with the heavyweights but that could lead to pride. I have to start with milk before I can get to solid food.Iconodule said:
Ouch! ;DIconodule said:
The world isn't ready.Iconodule said:
I've had this book on my shelf for quite a while. Embarrassed to say I haven't read it. I'm gonna dig into it tonight on your recommendation. Thanks!nothing said:Read the first two chapters of Mystical Theology of the Eastern Church by Vladimir Lossky.
Why oh why did I not read this years ago, reading it is euphoric.
I agree, I was surprised by how readable it was considering I have heard from others of its difficulty. There are other Orthodox theology books out there that are much more difficult than Mystical Theology.Iconodule said:It's a great book and very readable (at least it was for me).
Well in regards to the theology books I probably won't have the time to finish them in a week. It's not a requirement, thankfully.Iconodule said:That's a lot in one week!
It's been a long time since I read Pomazansky's Orthodox Dogmatic Theology. As I recall, it's a very straightforward, no frills presentation of the major subjects. I recall only one issue I had, which is that I wish he went a little more into the theology of icons- he explains why they are not idolatrous, how the honor to the image passes to the prototype, but he doesn't explicitly make the connection with the incarnation, though he does do this for relics. That was just one nitpick on my part and it may not even be accurate.
I really like The Art of Prayer. When you say your priest doesn't recommend it, do you mean he just didn't mention it, or he actually said not to read it?
So I began the book last night. I can already tell I'm going to need about five highlighters for this one. The book was given to me along with a bunch of others years ago when our Church moved to a new location. This book stood out because of its title, but I knew nothing about it. It's been on my shelf for years. Perhaps it is God's will that I begin to read it now. And as if I didn't need any other reason, check this out:nothing said:I agree, I was surprised by how readable it was considering I have heard from others of its difficulty. There are other Orthodox theology books out there that are much more difficult than Mystical Theology.Iconodule said:It's a great book and very readable (at least it was for me).
Even that said, I am slowly and carefully reading it while also taking notes on some of the more profound parts that force me to contemplate on them. One page I have practically every sentence marked with my notes in the margins.
So Gebre, I think you will find it immensely pleasurable read. You already have a solid background in Orthodox theology from what I have read of your writings, so you should find the book to be a treasure trove. It has been enormously helpful to me in getting the right, well how can I put this, "attitude" when it comes to the common faith which Lossky delves into.
I hope you enjoy it.
Speaking of this, hey Iconodule, if you want to respond to this, I'd like to ask you about modernism.Anthony1986 said:The Orthodox Way by Kallistos Ware
I probably did say that but my feelings have changed on most of these issues (I also think The Orthodox Way is a really good intro to Orthodox spirituality). Not that I am particularly in favor of women's ordination or pointless wine-and-dines at the WCC but they don't jump out to me as existential crises of the Church. I also think it's hard to deny that Met Kallistos has a point when he says that the reasons why women should not be ordained have not been articulated very well.nothing said:Speaking of this, hey Iconodule, if you want to respond to this, I'd like to ask you about modernism.Anthony1986 said:The Orthodox Way by Kallistos Ware
I recall you once called Kallistos Ware a modernist with his "liberal" views on issues like women ordination, uncritical acceptance of Darwinism, ecumenism and so on.
It seems to me that Orthodoxy is definitely not simply a relic of bygone age but has lived, breathed, and grown with the times. That doesn't mean we uncritically swallow everything but the Church is as much modern as it was once Roman, medieval Russian, etc. The way we do things, the way we learn, speak about, and practice the faith, is thoroughly modern, though that doesn't mean it is cut off from the ancient roots.My view of the Orthodox Church is that it is totally not modern, but I wouldn't say anti-modern because that would suggest in some opposition to it...which I'm not sure how that could be because the Church never arose in reaction to modernism. Maybe I'm wrong. I'd rather adopt G.K. Chesteron's "enchanted" or romantic view of the world which is something profoundly lost after the Enlightenment. To be a Christian is to be a true romantic, would you agree?
Maybe a more concrete (and widely read) example of what it reminds me of comes from the other side of the ecclesial fence — Jerome Kodell's Eucharist in the New Testament.Agabus said:Imagine Schmemann had a concise editor who then adapted his work to sound like the '92 CCC.Iconodule said:
Somehow I have managed to miss this one thus far even though it is fairly beloved.nothing said:Started Part 2 of Wounded by Love and well I am totally gobsmacked. After reading Part 1, I was not expecting such profound wisdom. This is the tonic I so badly thirst for and it is probably a book I will continue to read for the rest of my life. I am so blessed to have found this book! Thank you Iconodule and Mor!
Though I haven't done it, St Porphyrios' book is just the sort of book I'd read cover-to-cover repeatedly. Very few books make me feel that way. It's unfortunate there's not more out there in English.nothing said:Started Part 2 of Wounded by Love and well I am totally gobsmacked. After reading Part 1, I was not expecting such profound wisdom. This is the tonic I so badly thirst for and it is probably a book I will continue to read for the rest of my life. I am so blessed to have found this book! Thank you Iconodule and Mor!