I've never read that one. Please give an update here once you are done reading it. He's one of my favorite author's to read.Working on Schmemann's Introduction to Liturgical Theology...a controversial one, but pretty good.
aw man, GREAT read! enjoy it Pedro! (glad to have u back posting, btw )The Silmarillion by J.R.R. Tolkien
Well, I would, but my wife has hijacked it! She's got a slow stretch at work, with some time to read, so she's going through it. Really likes it, she says.Donna Rose said:aw man, GREAT read! enjoy it Pedro!
Hey, thanks. Good to be back.(glad to have u back posting, btw )
I'm impressed, Paradosis.Paradosis said:A History of the Byzantine State and Society, by Warren Treadgold
Divine Rhetoric, by Jaroslav Pelikan
The Life in Christ, by St. Nicholas Cabasilas
How true! Shame on both of us. Our respective parishes are less than 3 miles apart and we both drive over an hour to get to them! :-[Paradosis said:Sure... if we ever meet, lol.
How have you found the journals so far? I have read only a few entries.Marjorie said:I finished a bunch of the books I was reading all at once (On the Incarnation by Athanasius, The Winter Pascha, Fr. Arseny, Touching Heaven, The Master and Margarita, and so on...) so now I'm reading Jesus Through the Centuries by Jaroslav Pelikan and then I'm going to finish the journals of Fr. Schmemann.
Apologies for the slow response...with Christmas and everything else going on right now, the book took me obscenely long to finish. Overall, I'd recommend the book, although it's not exactly a "good read". It's dull, but worth the effort. Schmemann argues that the orginal and best form of the liturgy was obscured by monastic and Roman imperial developments in the fourth and fifth centuries, and that the underlying "lex orandi" became more difficult to see because of this. He looks specifically at issues surrounding the theology of time, which was especially useful to me personally. In the final chapter, the tone becomes somewhat more positive in talking about the "Byzantine synthesis" which combined the two approaches, removing some of the excesses of both. His final argument seems to be that although fourth century and later developments make it harder to see the original "lex orandi", a "restoration" of pre-Constantinian worship is impossible and not necessarily even desirable. Instead, he argues that "liturgical theology" should be further pursued to clarify these matters. One subsidiary point that's somewhat prominent is an attack on the more extreme liturgical conservatives. Overall, though, the historical portions of this book are much more developed than the theological interpretation. That would be my main criticism, that a lot of the aspects of the work could have used some further development, but overall I recommend it, and tend generally to agree with Schmemann's conclusions.Nacho said:I've never read that one. Please give an update here once you are done reading it. He's one of my favorite author's to read.
Pedro,Pedro said:Well, I would, but my wife has hijacked it! She's got a slow stretch at work, with some time to read, so she's going through it. Really likes it, she says.
Hey, thanks. Good to be back.
So, since I've finished Winter Pascha and have lost (for the moment) Tolkien, I'm reading an alternative history/sci-fi paperback by a guy named Harry Turtledove. It's called Guns of the South, a sort of "what-if" novel where the Confederacy wins the Civil War and successfully secedes from the Union.
Good writing so far; the only part I don't like is that the sci-fi aspect is white racists from 150 years in the future travel back to supply the South w/ AK-47s to win the war...once again, making the secession of the South all about slavery...
Well, great! Ruin the ending for me, why don't you!! ;Djmbejdl said:Can I ask if you've finished the Guns of the South? It's a great book (probably Turtledove's best in my opinion) and I can definitely state that if you do/did finish it you should see that it makes quite the opposite point to the one you thought it was making at first. I'm not an American, so I was always under the impression that your civil war was over slavery but I have to say that Turtledove's books have convinced me that it was a lot more complicated than that.
WOW!!! That's cool! Where could I find the short stories?He's also written some interesting short stories set in an Eastern Roman Empire that never fell (Turtledove's actually a Byzantine historian), though the quality isn't as good. Basically, the premise is that there was no Islamic invasion because Muhammad converted to Orthodox Christianity. There was likewise no Great Schism, but merely some Germanic Christians who left the Church and are considered heretics. There are some mistakes in his treatment of Orthodoxy, but then he's more interested in the politics than religion.