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IsmiLiora said:
I just wandered out of the living room, where my husband is watching The Walking Dead (tv show, not movie). I've sat through some zombie flicks, but this show just grosses me out. Bleagh.
I watched one or two episodes (part of a marathon). No thanks.
 

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We just got The Greatest Story Ever Told from Blockbuster. I'm so tired of wimpy Christs. Our Lord was a carpenter, he walked all over Judea and some ares outside of Judea. Whatever happened to historical accuracy???
You'd love The Gospel According to St. Matthew by Pasolini
It is literally sitting in front me. My Priest or someone gave it to me tonight. I was in a bit of stupor. Maybe it was an angel.

But nevertheless, there it is.
 

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vamrat said:
No love for Walking Dead!  I loved it.
The storyline isn't actually too bad, but the zombies really gross me out.

I actually never watch any gory horror movies. I made some concessions after I met Mr. Ismi (SOME), which included all of the Resident Evil movies, which I tolerate because I played the video games.

(I do have to hide under the couch when they have the usual Milla-Jovovich-ripping-hospital-needles-out-of-her-body scenes, though.?)

But the zombies, with their entrails dragging around, was just too much for me. Ick.
 

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Papist said:
I recently saw Sucker Punch and I actually thought that it was pretty good.
I thought I might rent that soon. I have some other stuff to watch first.
 

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Gebre Menfes Kidus said:
Now that I have Netflix, I finally watched OSTROV. I LOVED it!!!


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One by one. Does anyone else not see this film is schlock, besides me?

It is was cringe worthy at times. 

 

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orthonorm said:
Gebre Menfes Kidus said:
Now that I have Netflix, I finally watched OSTROV. I LOVED it!!!


Selam
One by one. Does anyone else not see this film is schlock, besides me?

It is was cringe worthy at times. 

Yes, I know some people love it and some hate it. So I went in to it prepared for the worst. But I found it to beautiful in its simplicity, and a very good and fair portrayal of Orthodoxy. I guess if I hadn't known about "fools for Christ," then I may not have appreciated it. It was also refreshing to see a well-made movie that deals with the human dramas of sin, evil, and redemption without being profane and pornographic.


Selam
 

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Gebre Menfes Kidus said:
orthonorm said:
Gebre Menfes Kidus said:
Now that I have Netflix, I finally watched OSTROV. I LOVED it!!!


Selam
One by one. Does anyone else not see this film is schlock, besides me?

It is was cringe worthy at times. 

Yes, I know some people love it and some hate it. So I went in to it prepared for the worst. But I found it to beautiful in its simplicity, and a very good and fair portrayal of Orthodoxy. I guess if I hadn't known about "fools for Christ," then I may not have appreciated it. It was also refreshing to see a well-made movie that deals with the human dramas of sin, evil, and redemption without being profane and pornographic.


Selam
Some nice art school cinematography but that is it.

From the script to acting, it was terrible.

Oh well.

And I don't think you can really accomplish the bolded part of your statement. Sin and evil are not categories but real actions which are profane and pornographic at times.

Sides, you need some edge to sell a film.

Hard to sell a story is all that is "bad" happens off stage.

Some good films out there about redemption that don't take place in an Orthodox fable.
 

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orthonorm said:
Gebre Menfes Kidus said:
orthonorm said:
Gebre Menfes Kidus said:
Now that I have Netflix, I finally watched OSTROV. I LOVED it!!!


Selam
One by one. Does anyone else not see this film is schlock, besides me?

It is was cringe worthy at times. 

Yes, I know some people love it and some hate it. So I went in to it prepared for the worst. But I found it to beautiful in its simplicity, and a very good and fair portrayal of Orthodoxy. I guess if I hadn't known about "fools for Christ," then I may not have appreciated it. It was also refreshing to see a well-made movie that deals with the human dramas of sin, evil, and redemption without being profane and pornographic.


Selam
Some nice art school cinematography but that is it.

From the script to acting, it was terrible.

Oh well.

And I don't think you can really accomplish the bolded part of your statement. Sin and evil are not categories but real actions which are profane and pornographic at times.

Sides, you need some edge to sell a film.

Hard to sell a story is all that is "bad" happens off stage.

Some good films out there about redemption that don't take place in an Orthodox fable.


So it must be offensive to be artistic? Not gonna buy into that my friend. I always say that any message or story can be creatively portrayed in a manner that is suitable for children. If an artist has to use profanity, nudity, vulgarity, and gore to convey his point, then he is a poor artist indeed. And sadly, or society is rife with very poor artists. But that doesn't mean we have to settle for the garbage they produce.

I guess the Lives of the Saints is beneath your artistic level. (Or is it perhaps above it?)


Selam
 

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Recently re-watched David Lynch's "Mulholland Drive." Can't say that I understood it better, compared to my first exposure to it (about 4 years ago), but the aesthetic impact was the same. Amazing, mesmerizing, truly surreal. Lynch is a genius, a sorcerer if you will.
 

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Gebre Menfes Kidus said:
So it must be offensive to be artistic? Not gonna buy into that my friend. I always say that any message or story can be creatively portrayed in a manner that is suitable for children. If an artist has to use profanity, nudity, vulgarity, and gore to convey his point, then he is a poor artist indeed. And sadly, or society is rife with very poor artists. But that doesn't mean we have to settle for the garbage they produce.

I guess the Lives of the Saints is beneath your artistic level. (Or is it perhaps above it?)


Selam
I don't mean to pick on you, my friend, but I've always thought about this.

The Bible itself, as well as the history of the Church, has stories that I wouldn't consider "Child-friendly" at all.

Yes, companies do abridge the Bible and put it in terms that younger children can understand and appreciate, but I think is fine for them. I

But I've wondered whether we, as adults, should ourselves seek the "child-friendly" route. We can read the Bible. We read literature that isn't always "appropriate." Of course it isn't kosher to love vulgarity, but watching sugar-coated stories about real-life events that were much more raw, tragic, etc., comes off as so false. I'd rather not watch any movies than have to watch the stuff that is put out by today's evangelical Christian market (I don't know of the movie you're talking about, so I am not being specific here).

I used to be surrounded by adults who would ooh and ahh over movies like Fireproof and One Night With the King (awful, really). I really don't understand it myself. I think that we could use to inject some more reality in movies, not just what Focus on the Family happens to find appropriate at any given time.

But I also understand the critique that we shouldn't necessarily be wanting more sex, vulgar language, etc. in movies. I happen to stand on the other side of that, though.
 
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Everyone here loves Dostoyevsky and his books are full of suicide, prostitution and drug abuse, right?

I don't think those things diminish the loftiness of that blessed author's prose.
 

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See IsmiLiora and akimori.

Was going to explain to you why you were wrong again this morning Gebre, but I thought three times was enough.

All this is obviously.

And you assume a lot, especially today. When did I say something "had to be offensive"?

First you assume what I have read. And now you project or amplify what I say and put words into my mouth.

Read, then post.
 

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orthonorm said:
See IsmiLiora and akimori.

Was going to explain to you why you were wrong again this morning Gebre, but I thought three times was enough.

All this is obviously.

And you assume a lot, especially today. When did I say something "had to be offensive"?

First you assume what I have read. And now you project or amplify what I say and put words into my mouth.

Read, then post.
I did read all your posts on this, and I am not sure why you didn't like Ostrov.  I thought it was a good movie.  I am not very "artistic" in that if something is artsy but doesn't tell a story worth hearing I won't subject myself to watching it, but I will watch a good yarn even if it doesn't push the boundaries.  With Ostrov, you could probably guess the ending (though to be honest I guessed Shutter Island far earlier in than I did Ostrov) but I still like seeing how it gets to that point.  Like Gebre was pointing out, it is kind of like a modern, fictional, Live of the Saints in movie form.  That is the main reason I liked it.  There are plenty of movies about redemption that are not Orthodox fables, but sometimes I want to watch a story about redemption that is an Orthodox fable.  (Good use of the word fable, BTW, since it is a fictional story and does have a moral lesson.  Generally when someone refers to Christianity in general as a "fairy tale" I see red and think unChristian thoughts.)

For the record, I can stomach movies with blood, gore, sex, and violence.  But I can enjoy a movie that gets the point across without any of it.  Time and place, yo. 
 

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IsmiLiora said:
Gebre Menfes Kidus said:
So it must be offensive to be artistic? Not gonna buy into that my friend. I always say that any message or story can be creatively portrayed in a manner that is suitable for children. If an artist has to use profanity, nudity, vulgarity, and gore to convey his point, then he is a poor artist indeed. And sadly, or society is rife with very poor artists. But that doesn't mean we have to settle for the garbage they produce. T

I guess the Lives of the Saints is beneath your artistic level. (Or is it perhaps above it?)


Selam
I don't mean to pick on you, my friend, but I've always thought about this.

The Bible itself, as well as the history of the Church, has stories that I wouldn't consider "Child-friendly" at all.

Yes, companies do abridge the Bible and put it in terms that younger children can understand and appreciate, but I think is fine for them. I

But I've wondered whether we, as adults, should ourselves seek the "child-friendly" route. We can read the Bible. We read literature that isn't always "appropriate." Of course it isn't kosher to love vulgarity, but watching sugar-coated stories about real-life events that were much more raw, tragic, etc., comes off as so false. I'd rather not watch any movies than have to watch the stuff that is put out by today's evangelical Christian market (I don't know of the movie you're talking about, so I am not being specific here).

I used to be surrounded by adults who would ooh and ahh over movies like Fireproof and One Night With the King (awful, really). I really don't understand it myself. I think that we could use to inject some more reality in movies, not just what Focus on the Family happens to find appropriate at any given time.

But I also understand the critique that we shouldn't necessarily be wanting more sex, vulgar language, etc. in movies. I happen to stand on the other side of that, though.

The Bible will offend everyone, as the Truth always does. But there is righteous way to convey the Truth, and I doubt if any Orhtodox Christian will accuse the prophets and apostles of conveying their message in an unrighteous manner.

There is a huge difference between the way Dostoevsky conveys dark and disturbing realities and the way Hollywood typically does. Dostoevsky was an artist, and he didn't need to graphically describe sexual acts and body parts in a salacious manner. He didn't need to have his characters curse profusely in order to make us realize they were reprobate. True artists don't have to sugar coat anything, but neither do they have to be gratuitous in order to convey their message. It's called creativity, of which there is a dearth in our current society.


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