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This is the story of Rich Mullins, who was a famous contemporary Christian musician. Most of these evangelical Christian movies are atrocious, but this one was actually pretty good. The movie gives an honest portrayal of a man who struggled mightily with his faith, perhaps even more so after he achieved fame. Singing about God and speaking profound truths and then often going to a motel to drink himself to sleep in bouts of loneliness and fear. This is the kind of Christian I can relate to (except for the fame, the singing, and the profound truths.) This movie won't win any Academy Awards or anything, but I do recommend it as something definitely worth watching.


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wgw said:
biro said:
The first "Star Trek" movie, from 1979. Bonkers as ever, but gorgeous.  :-*
Amen to that.  I love the character of Commander Decker, who was also the basis of TNG's Will Riker.  And the high theology of the longer TV version and directors cut, where Decker says "Of course!  We all create God in our own image!" referring to V'ger's inability to conceive of humans having created it (aa the Voyager 6 space probe) and instead imagined it was created by rhe machines present on Earth, which though not as sophisticated as those that upgraded Vger on the machine planet, by the 23rd century would surely appear capable of making do without the "carbon based units" that are "not true life forms" (humans) that "infest" Earth and the USS Enterprise, and which Vger prepares to exterminate.

Then Decker intervenes and joins with Vger and the robotic replica of Lt. Ilia in a literal apotheosis which is utterly transcendental and brings tears to my eyes every time.  It's the most epic Star Trek movie; The Wrath of Khan is good, and has moments of deep emotional impact with the death of Spock, but The Motion Picture is like 2001: A Space Odyssey done right.  2001 is an epic film and without it we wouldn't have had TMP, but 2001 has only one three dimensional character, HAL 9000, whereas both Vger and the Enterprise crew are equally intense in TMP.  The transcendental conclusion of 2001 appeared to many with shall we say first hand knowledge as a mere LSD trip, on film, whereas the transcendental conclusion of TMP is comprehensible and part of a coherent plot.  That said, the 2001-imitation scenes where the Enterprise penetrates the cloud surrounding Vger and over flies the vast object itself are more than a little "trippy" and not as impressive as the effects directors thought they were; they could have been cut and the film wouldn't have suffered.

The same director by the way who did Star Trek: The Motion Picture also directed the original versions of The Day the Earth Stood Still and The Andromeda Strain, both masterpieces of cinematic SF in their own right.  Star Trek was his final SF film, also the one movie where Gene Roddenberry had the most input, and was IMO a crowning achievement for both men.  As it says at the conclusion of the film, "The Human Adventure Is Just Beginning", which I think is something Orthodoxy with its promise of Theosis can agree with, surprisingly.  Also, fun fact: the script was originally written for the cancelled Star Trek: Phase 2 television series (along with a lot of the film), and was entitled In Thy Image.  The characters Lt. Commander Surak and Commander Decker were jointly intended to replace Spoxk as Nimoy who at the time struggled with alcoholism initially did not wish to,return to the roll, but money persuaded him otherwise, hence Surak's gruesome death in the transporter malfunction and Decker's apotheosis.  Lt. Ilia I believe was written specifically for the film.  Also if I recall Gucci did the awesome uniforms, where the leather boots are sewn into the pants leg, providing a sleek dignified and professional look that in the future might actually be highly practical (imagine just jumping into your pants and shoes in one move); a nice contrast to the silly bell bottoms of Space: 1999 or even Star Trek 2.
I quite concur! Despite the timing, it's as fitting to a tribute to Mr. Nimoy (memory eternal) as ever there was. :)
 

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TheTrisagion said:
I watched the final Hobbit movie. It was terrible.
I wanted to like it more than I did, yeah. I nearly cried at the end, though.
 

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Whiplash

Some incredible music salvaged this one. Little character development, an absurdly over-the-top caricature of the abusive music instructor, no subtlety to the plot, and good actors wasted throughout the film. The music kept me intrigued, and I kept hoping for more. But there are no surprises, no subplots, no real intrigue here. A competent camera, a decent cast, and a good musical score can make a movie worth watching. And this one wasn't worthless. It just should have been so much better.


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She probably doesn't know what the internet is.

Either way, she looks like she needs a kiss.
 

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Mor Ephrem said:
TheTrisagion said:
She probably doesn't know what the internet is.

Either way, she looks like she needs a kiss.
I'll pass, my lips are spoken for.  But I'd gladly have tea with her and hear her tell stories from days of yore.
Her yore looks back a lot more than yours, youngster. Unless she's  21 and been in the sun all this weekend.
 

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LenInSebastopol said:
Mor Ephrem said:
TheTrisagion said:
She probably doesn't know what the internet is.

Either way, she looks like she needs a kiss.
I'll pass, my lips are spoken for.  But I'd gladly have tea with her and hear her tell stories from days of yore.
Her yore looks back a lot more than yours, youngster. Unless she's  21 and been in the sun all this weekend.
What?
 

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Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets. The young one's favourite of the set. ('Big snake!' :D)
 

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Birdman, American Sniper and Yüregine sor.
What did you think of Birdman? I thought it was good, not exactly what I was expecting but still good. Emma Stone....*faints like a fanboy*
 

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Peacemaker said:
Fabio Leite said:
Birdman, American Sniper and Yüregine sor.
What did you think of Birdman? I thought it was good, not exactly what I was expecting but still good. Emma Stone....*faints like a fanboy*
I thought it was interesting but not worth the hype. It's the kind of alternative story that we are used to in comics, but not so common in cinema, so maybe that's why it felt so "new" for the industry.

One can see his superpowers as hallucinations of a troubled actor or as actual powers of a man who could be doing so much more but is prisioner to mediocrity because he hungers for attention and standard labels of status in society.

I, personally, don't like storylines where the author or director "let you decide" if something really happened or not. It strikes me as presumptious and lazy, trying to look "intellectual" without managing or daring to actually make a point.
 

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Fabio Leite said:
Peacemaker said:
Fabio Leite said:
Birdman, American Sniper and Yüregine sor.
What did you think of Birdman? I thought it was good, not exactly what I was expecting but still good. Emma Stone....*faints like a fanboy*


I, personally, don't like storylines where the author or director "let you decide" if something really happened or not. It strikes me as presumptious and lazy, trying to look "intellectual" without managing or daring to actually make a point.



******SPOILER*******









But what about Emma Stone at the end? She clearly watched her father fly away.
 

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Fabio Leite said:
Peacemaker said:
Fabio Leite said:
Birdman, American Sniper and Yüregine sor.
What did you think of Birdman? I thought it was good, not exactly what I was expecting but still good. Emma Stone....*faints like a fanboy*
I, personally, don't like storylines where the author or director "let you decide" if something really happened or not. It strikes me as presumptious and lazy, trying to look "intellectual" without managing or daring to actually make a point.
+1

It's become such a cliché. Tell the story, whether it's good or bad, depraved or redemptive, and let people form their own conclusions. Reality is the greatest mystery of all. No need to tamper with it.


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Peacemaker said:
Fabio Leite said:
Birdman, American Sniper and Yüregine sor.
What did you think of Birdman? I thought it was good, not exactly what I was expecting but still good. Emma Stone....*faints like a fanboy*
Need to see it again, and not to soon for my money. Saw it with one who is not a film buff and found it stupid. Few interesting parts and a couple of dark laughs. Maybe different if I can focus to find any  thing else.

Saw FOCUS with Will Smith.....enjoyable movie for popcorn.
 

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LenInSebastopol said:
Peacemaker said:
Fabio Leite said:
Birdman, American Sniper and Yüregine sor.
What did you think of Birdman? I thought it was good, not exactly what I was expecting but still good. Emma Stone....*faints like a fanboy*
Need to see it again, and not to soon for my money. Saw it with one who is not a film buff and found it stupid. Few interesting parts and a couple of dark laughs. Maybe different if I can focus to find any  thing else.

Saw FOCUS with Will Smith.....enjoyable movie for popcorn.
You paid money to see focus...  o_O?
 

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Peacemaker said:
Fabio Leite said:
Peacemaker said:
Fabio Leite said:
Birdman, American Sniper and Yüregine sor.
What did you think of Birdman? I thought it was good, not exactly what I was expecting but still good. Emma Stone....*faints like a fanboy*


I, personally, don't like storylines where the author or director "let you decide" if something really happened or not. It strikes me as presumptious and lazy, trying to look "intellectual" without managing or daring to actually make a point.



******SPOILER*******









But what about Emma Stone at the end? She clearly watched her father fly away.
She was into drugs and really disturbed. Nobody can guarantee that she was not getting hysterical or starting to have the same hallucinatory symptoms as her father due to the trauma.

Notice that when he first flies in front of the crowds, he lands on the street and nobody seems to care. Which one is the sick reaction? Not paying attention to a flying man or seeing your suicidal father fly away, neither, both?

Is it about masses blind to something really beyond their horizon of conscience and everyday experience and about the girl finally breaking out of the Plato's cave and having a first experience of the sublime precisely with her father who she so much despised? Is it about madness being the tragic nature of life, starting to consume her as it consumed her father? Is it about finding soothing refuge in beautiful fantasies like in Big Fish and she finally learns so? Is it about mediocre people hanging to pathetic dellusions of grandeur not to despair due to the lack of feeling loved? The movie does not make any clear point about it and "let you decide".
 

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Went to see McPharland, USA starring Costner the weekend before Lent. About halfway through, it dawned on me that the movie was really not about running or migrant farm workers at all, but was a parable applicable to the lives of the immigrant ancestors of many of us. It extolled family, faith, community and hard work. Sporting accomplishment became the avenue out for some from the trap that the life of the first generation. Simple and corny, but a good values film. And a true story.
 

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Peacemaker said:
LenInSebastopol said:
Peacemaker said:
Fabio Leite said:
Birdman, American Sniper and Yüregine sor.
What did you think of Birdman? I thought it was good, not exactly what I was expecting but still good. Emma Stone....*faints like a fanboy*
Need to see it again, and not to soon for my money. Saw it with one who is not a film buff and found it stupid. Few interesting parts and a couple of dark laughs. Maybe different if I can focus to find any  thing else.

Saw FOCUS with Will Smith.....enjoyable movie for popcorn.
You paid money to see focus...  o_O?
Yeah, I can recommend it to a movie buff with time to escape and likes popcorn. Besides, Seniors get a discount  :)

Lord, have mercy.
"....and grant to see my own transgressions, and not to judge.....
 

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I want to go see Chappie tonight so badly.  I might just be a loser and go see it by myself.
 

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Fabio Leite said:
Peacemaker said:
Fabio Leite said:
Peacemaker said:
Fabio Leite said:
Birdman, American Sniper and Yüregine sor.
What did you think of Birdman? I thought it was good, not exactly what I was expecting but still good. Emma Stone....*faints like a fanboy*


I, personally, don't like storylines where the author or director "let you decide" if something really happened or not. It strikes me as presumptious and lazy, trying to look "intellectual" without managing or daring to actually make a point.



******SPOILER*******









But what about Emma Stone at the end? She clearly watched her father fly away.
She was into drugs and really disturbed. Nobody can guarantee that she was not getting hysterical or starting to have the same hallucinatory symptoms as her father due to the trauma.

Notice that when he first flies in front of the crowds, he lands on the street and nobody seems to care. Which one is the sick reaction? Not paying attention to a flying man or seeing your suicidal father fly away, neither, both?

Is it about masses blind to something really beyond their horizon of conscience and everyday experience and about the girl finally breaking out of the Plato's cave and having a first experience of the sublime precisely with her father who she so much despised? Is it about madness being the tragic nature of life, starting to consume her as it consumed her father? Is it about finding soothing refuge in beautiful fantasies like in Big Fish and she finally learns so? Is it about mediocre people hanging to pathetic dellusions of grandeur not to despair due to the lack of feeling loved? The movie does not make any clear point about it and "let you decide".
She just got out of rehab

He clearly took a taxi and that flying scene was his own fantasy because the cab driver was upset he didn't pay.
 

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Peacemaker said:
Fabio Leite said:
Peacemaker said:
Fabio Leite said:
Peacemaker said:
Fabio Leite said:
Birdman, American Sniper and Yüregine sor.
What did you think of Birdman? I thought it was good, not exactly what I was expecting but still good. Emma Stone....*faints like a fanboy*


I, personally, don't like storylines where the author or director "let you decide" if something really happened or not. It strikes me as presumptious and lazy, trying to look "intellectual" without managing or daring to actually make a point.



******SPOILER*******









But what about Emma Stone at the end? She clearly watched her father fly away.
She was into drugs and really disturbed. Nobody can guarantee that she was not getting hysterical or starting to have the same hallucinatory symptoms as her father due to the trauma.

Notice that when he first flies in front of the crowds, he lands on the street and nobody seems to care. Which one is the sick reaction? Not paying attention to a flying man or seeing your suicidal father fly away, neither, both?

Is it about masses blind to something really beyond their horizon of conscience and everyday experience and about the girl finally breaking out of the Plato's cave and having a first experience of the sublime precisely with her father who she so much despised? Is it about madness being the tragic nature of life, starting to consume her as it consumed her father? Is it about finding soothing refuge in beautiful fantasies like in Big Fish and she finally learns so? Is it about mediocre people hanging to pathetic dellusions of grandeur not to despair due to the lack of feeling loved? The movie does not make any clear point about it and "let you decide".
She just got out of rehab

He clearly took a taxi and that flying scene was his own fantasy because the cab driver was upset he didn't pay.
She got out of rehab but it doesn't always work, and some people still hallucinate even after going clean.

About the taxi driver, yes, that is a strong indication that he was hallucinating all the time, as it is the fact that we see throwing things with his hands at a point. But they are just evidence. We also see he jump from buildings two times and in front of people witnessing it.

Another interesting interpretation is this one:
http://www.quora.com/Birdman-2014-movie/What-happens-at-the-end-of-Birdman

The final scene in the hospital would actually be a flashback about the future he had deliriously envisioned in his despair. He gets good reviews for his play, reconciliates with ex-wife and daughter who finally see him as he sees himself, the powerful flying Birdman.

It makes sense, but only in terms of internal interpretative coherence, the narrative itself does not impose this meaning.

We know from camera angles and hallucinatory episodes that we are not seeing reality from a third neutral perspective, but from the character's perspective, specially his own, which mixes fantasy and the real world. The "virtue" of ignorance applies to the audience as much as for the character, because we are not meant to pin-point what is real and what is not. All will depend on the interpretative tools used.

Machado de Assis, a 19th century writer, is famous here as one of the important authors of our literature. One of his most famous works is "Don Casmurro" where we see the main character's relationship with his lifelong love Capitu, always from his own perspective. It's impossible to know if he is a sickly jelous man who imagines his sweetheart and then wife cheating on him with his best friend or if she is truly unfaithful and abusive of faithful man. Debates rage on if Capitu cheated or not, but the fact is that the text does not give you an answer and the intent of the author was precisely to achieve that ambiguity, creating in text one of those pictures that look like a rabbit or a duck depending on how you look at them.

Many movies are made with the same intent. Their "master piece" ideal is to create a work that is nothing in itself but can be "seen" as different images depending on how you look at them. In a sense, they are anti-icons, expressing nothing in order to reflect the audiences own prejudices and beliefs to be liked by all or the chosen group.

They reflect one of the modern key beliefs (false, IMO)  that we do not have intellectual access to reality itself but only to mental constructs of it, so a work of "art" is to ellicit mental constructs that make sense for the audience but does not try to "impose" any meaning of itself, because with such assumptions, first it would be bad art, second it would be imoral to impose your own mental constructs on others (some who deem thesemlves "educators" or "liberators" would disagree with this), third it would be useless because people would have their own mental constructs and not yours anyway.

I think that, despite the creators beliefs, Birdman's narrative is in line with so many others where the general assumption is that our perceptions wall us from reality instead of revealing it to us.
 

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I just watched Date Night with Steve Carrell.

It was modestly funny.

The End.
 

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Mysteries of the Jesus Prayer

So      slowly        paced          :-\
 

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vamrat said:
I want to go see Chappie tonight so badly.  I might just be a loser and go see it by myself.
Hope you saw it. Very enjoyable if you like that sort of thing. Clearly the same folks as District 9.
Not for kids, a bit wet/graphic, which I dn"t much like, but tolerable.
 

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LenInSebastopol said:
vamrat said:
I want to go see Chappie tonight so badly.  I might just be a loser and go see it by myself.
Hope you saw it. Very enjoyable if you like that sort of thing. Clearly the same folks as District 9.
Not for kids, a bit wet/graphic, which I didn't much like, but tolerable.
I can't wait to go, either. It looks really cool.
 

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Mysteries of the Jesus Prayer

So      slowly        paced          :-\
Despite the pace, would you say it is worth seeing?
 

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scamandrius said:
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Mysteries of the Jesus Prayer

So      slowly        paced          :-\
Despite the pace, would you say it is worth seeing?
For the $4 I paid, I would say yes, worth a shot (and most of the people voting for it at amazon, Rotten Tomatoes, etc. seemed to like it--though the critics didn't, for filmmaking reasons). For $20, I dunno, though (as far as I can tell) there are no extras, so you don't really gain anything, content wise, from buying the DVD over a digital version.  Given the subject matter I guess I should have been prepared for mellow, slow, and repetition. Maybe I'll give it another shot, a small part at a time, in a few weeks.
 

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Just put Police Academy on, and going to bed. Last 20 minutes of this movie drags a bit, but I'll be asleep by then...
 

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Justin Kissel said:
scamandrius said:
Justin Kissel said:
Mysteries of the Jesus Prayer

So      slowly        paced          :-\
Despite the pace, would you say it is worth seeing?
For the $4 I paid, I would say yes, worth a shot (and most of the people voting for it at amazon, Rotten Tomatoes, etc. seemed to like it--though the critics didn't, for filmmaking reasons). For $20, I dunno, though (as far as I can tell) there are no extras, so you don't really gain anything, content wise, from buying the DVD over a digital version.  Given the subject matter I guess I should have been prepared for mellow, slow, and repetition. Maybe I'll give it another shot, a small part at a time, in a few weeks.
It's online for free.  https://youtu.be/697OSC6BgTs

Unless you get extra goodies when you pay for it.
 

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hecma925 said:
Justin Kissel said:
scamandrius said:
Justin Kissel said:
Mysteries of the Jesus Prayer

So      slowly        paced          :-\
Despite the pace, would you say it is worth seeing?
For the $4 I paid, I would say yes, worth a shot (and most of the people voting for it at amazon, Rotten Tomatoes, etc. seemed to like it--though the critics didn't, for filmmaking reasons). For $20, I dunno, though (as far as I can tell) there are no extras, so you don't really gain anything, content wise, from buying the DVD over a digital version.  Given the subject matter I guess I should have been prepared for mellow, slow, and repetition. Maybe I'll give it another shot, a small part at a time, in a few weeks.
It's online for free.  https://youtu.be/697OSC6BgTs

Unless you get extra goodies when you pay for it.
Everything is online for free, if you really want to look around for it  :police:  But yeah, there is more on the version I watched: specifically, the rest of the documentary--another 57 minutes more material... though YMMV as to whether you want the longer version...
 
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