Yes! Sarah's always been permeable to the influence of the Lodge entities. The "traditional" interpretation before the new season began was that Windom Earle was the one using her here. Now, with "The Experiment"...or something else being inside of her, who knows? The question is, was she always a vessel for this stuff to the degree that she is now and kept it under wraps? Is she the girl who swallowed the locust-frog? Or, was she just susceptible to this stuff, and the misery of what Leland did to Laura pushed her deeper than ever?RobS said:
Wow. And Bob's been tormenting Leland since he was a kid. And benign spirit Laura was dropped into the middle of that.RobS said:Oh she totally swallowed that frogbug!
Nice. I'm gonna go into withdrawal when episode 18 ends.RobS said:So SkyTV is reporting that Part 15 is 70 minutes long. Woohoo!
This was a lot of fun. I thought the finale was a bit lackluster and the change in tone too drastic, but overall I really enjoyed it and am looking forward to a second season.Bob2 said:Comrade Detective
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Watched the first 2 episodes and it is hilarious. It is a deadpan spoof with the premise that is that "found footage" of a 1980's Romanian communist crime drama propaganda TV show. Filmed in Romanian and dubbed into English which only adds to the hilarity.
You beat me to it! I was about to post almost exactly the same thing!RobS said:
A teapot!!!Antonious Nikolas said:You beat me to it! I was about to post almost exactly the same thing!RobS said:
And I think we're on our way to getting Cooper back.
And we went to the room above the convenience store.
And we finally saw the present incarnation of Phillip Jeffries.
And we said goodbye to the Log Lady. :'( :'( :'(
Cute. So you think Judy is a codename for Garland Briggs then? Might be. We saw a monkey speak Judy's name and then saw Garland speak the words "blue rose" in a later similar scene. Sometimes I think she might be Naido though. Probably not.RobS said:Judy Garland Briggs!
Get GORDON COLE!!!!RobS said:Oh and gotta love that Sunset Boulevard scene.
Longmire is entertaining - I like the characters - you root for the hero and he doesn't disappoint.Gebre Menfes Kidus said:I love all those. Haven't seen Longmire. Let me know if it's any good.GabrieltheCelt said:Just started 'Longmire' on Netflix. My faves are Seinfeld, Frazier, Andy Griffith, and King of Queens (mostly because my wife likes that show). Also close to finishing up Twin Peaks (the first two seasons). Honestly, I don't watch a lot of TV; I do like documentaries, though.
You're right that you don't want to miss the forest for the trees. I can get past some of the nonsensical details. They don't detract from the warnings these episodes impart. It's good to see a show revealing the darker side to seemingly innocuous technological advancements.Asteriktos said:Let me know what you think of the rest of Black Mirror. They kinda reminded me of the old Twilight Zone episodes, where they can be interesting if you focus on the ideas, and can look past the huge plot holes and nonsensical character choices. I watched the first 3 episodes and couldn't see a reason to continue, but everyone always talks up how great the series is.
The only unresolved plotline that bothers me still is Audrey's. I'm not satisfied it ended her in a white room looking at a mirror in shock. I'm not asking for a complete exposition but that did demand more of an exploration of her condition. I'm fine with everything else that was left unresolved and up to speculation. The less the show explains the better.Antonious Nikolas said:The Twin Peaks two part season finale did not disappoint. Lynch and Frost simultaneously wrapped up enough of this season's immediate plotlines to leave the viewer satisfied while simultaneously leaving enough of the big questions unresolved to bait the hook for the next go 'round, creating new questions in the process.
One thing is for certain, this Twin Peaks is nothing like the Twin Peaks I know and love. That's not a knock, just what it is.
And our lives continue to parallel each other in strange ways.Antonious Nikolas said:
+1hecma925 said:Rick and Morty on Youtube. Pretty funny.
One of us is obviously a tulpa.Cognomen said:
They've gotta bait the hook somehow. Audrey's story came online so late, it was kinda obvious they weren't gonna give us too much this season. And that tease with the arm - the little girl who lived down the lane stuff - hinting that there's some lodge business involved, that was brilliant. If Showtime doesn't pick them up for another season, that will be criminal. The question is, are Lynch/Frost interested and can they fire off another season in standard TV time instead of taking another four years?RobS said:The only unresolved plotline that bothers me still is Audrey's. I'm not satisfied it ended her in a white room looking at a mirror in shock. I'm not asking for a complete exposition but that did demand more of an exploration of her condition. I'm fine with everything else that was left unresolved and up to speculation. The less the show explains the better.
To each his own, I suppose. I don't want to say "You're watching it wrong", but I couldn't disagree more about what you think of as "filler" not being atmospheric. Lynch definitely has a reason for each moment he allows on screen, and he definitely has enough plates spinning that there's no reason for filler for its own sake. As far as exhausting the viewer goes, I guess that depends on each viewer's personal reaction to those scenes. I heard a lot of people carping about Cooper (Richard) and Laura (Claire)'s drive from Odessa to Twin Peaks, but I loved every minute of it. It was immersive and atmospheric and all get out. I felt like I was in the car for a late night long distance drive. It was very familiar. Very atmospheric. I loved it. Mulholland Drive was great, but I hesitate to call it Lynch's standalone masterpiece. I'm thinking this series might be his magnum opus. Speaking of Mulholland Drive though, how awesome would it be if Lynch/Frost brought both Donnas back and made a plot point out of that a la Mulholland Drive or Lost Highway? ;DRobS said:However that does lead me to a criticism I have of the show, now that's ended and I can look at it as a whole.
There is a lot of filler. And I mean a lot. All the nighttime driving, broom sweeping, french girl leaving the hotel room with Cole, the Fireman waiting forever to turn off the noise in the tower etc. never created any mood or atmosphere. It's like Lynch is trying as hard as possible to exhaust the viewer with tedium. I was perfectly fine with the glass box in NYC slowly unraveling itself because of how mysterious it is, but the show needed some serious editing. Lynch got too self-indulgent for my taste. His masterpiece is still Mulholland Dr, it has the perfect balance.
I know what you mean. I can't stand it - for example - when they do those kind of "jokes" (using the term loosely) on Family Guy or whatever, where Peter holds his injured shin and inhales sharply for ten minutes, or they cut away to Conway Twitty for a whole song. I just think what Lynch wsa doing was different. Watching his films is sort of like staring at a painting or a sculpture to me. It's going to evoke all kinds of primal feelings. That's how I read those scenes.RobS said:All said and done I have a lot of mixed feelings. Some things I loved, others I liked, and others that agonizingly bored me to irritation. And I'm someone that can watch a 10hr Holocaust documentary with no issues.
Yeah, but you have to expect that. Television has moved on a great deal since the original run, and if they just indulged in heavy nostalgia and trotted out the same tropes as last time, it would be terrible, and satisfy no one but a few sad souls who dress up in Log Lady sweaters and Bob vests and wish they could date Kyle McLachlan or Sherilyn Fenn. I'd say the soul of the show is the same. We're just getting a more direct look at what was always bubbling beneath the surface in the town.RobS said:One thing is for certain, this Twin Peaks is nothing like the Twin Peaks I know and love. That's not a knock, just what it is.
I think the writing is perfect for what it is. You could make the same criticism of the writing in the original run, or Wild at Heart, or any other number of Lynch projects, but like you said, that's kind of the point. Lynch's work - to me at least - is more about feeling that anything else. The writing doesn't try to be Shakespeare and the CGI effects don't try to be photorealistic, but they don't have to to accomplish the artist's purpose.RobS said:I don't know about reinventing TV. On one level it is probably one of the worst written TV shows I've ever seen but considering how anti-Twin Peaks the Return is, gotta wonder if that was the point...