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What would prevent someome from becoming a monk?

RobS

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Is there anything immediate that would disqualify someone from becoming a monk?
 

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Heavy debts? I heard that one somewhere, but I don't have a source. I think it's part of the need to be cut off from the world.

I also wonder if they'd take someone relatively young, but who's got a lot of medications like me (not that I want to become a monk, I really don't, but it's always good to have options).
 

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NicholasMyra said:
RobS said:
Is there anything immediate that would disqualify someone from becoming a monk?
Trying to become a monk immediately and unqualifiedly
Yeah, that's true. Fr. Schmemman had his famous "wait at least ten years" advise.
 

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Luke said:
marriage?
Depends on if your wife is willing to let you leave, I think. In the past it wasn't unheard of for couples to split and go to separate monasteries. I don't know how common that is nowadays (nor if that's considered a divorce in the eyes of the Church, ie. if a spouse who doesn't choose the monastery is free to remarry, etc).
 

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Volnutt said:
Luke said:
marriage?
Depends on if your wife is willing to let you leave, I think. In the past it wasn't unheard of for couples to split and go to separate monasteries. I don't know how common that is nowadays (nor if that's considered a divorce in the eyes of the Church, ie. if a spouse who doesn't choose the monastery is free to remarry, etc).
Such is the case of Archbishop Chrysostom of Brazil, who had two children before monkhood, and no, it's not technically divorce.
 

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RaphaCam said:
Volnutt said:
Luke said:
marriage?
Depends on if your wife is willing to let you leave, I think. In the past it wasn't unheard of for couples to split and go to separate monasteries. I don't know how common that is nowadays (nor if that's considered a divorce in the eyes of the Church, ie. if a spouse who doesn't choose the monastery is free to remarry, etc).
Such is the case of Archbishop Chrysostom of Brazil, who had two children before monkhood, and no, it's not technically divorce.
Did his wife at least want to become a nun? If not, I feel bad for her.
 

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Yeah.  our weekly bulletin has stories about the commemorated saints of the day.  Some stories include married saints becoming monks, but I have not heard of that in current times. /shrug.
 

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Luke said:
Yeah.  our weekly bulletin has stories about the commemorated saints of the day.  Some stories include married saints becoming monks, but I have not heard of that in current times. /shrug.
I have heard if a few so it still happens.
 

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I have trouble reconciling the Lord's view of marriage with married couples going off and becoming monks.
 

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Luke said:
I have trouble reconciling the Lord's view of marriage with married couples going off and becoming monks.
If both are willing, where's the problem?  ...especially, if they are beyond childbearing age... they are not shirking the "go forth and multiply" commandment.

The only "hindrance" I know...is anything that would add a burden on the monastic community.  That may be a debt that needs to be paid, or even an illness, where instead of "serving", the monk/nun is the one who needs to be served and looked after.

If that is the case, then it would be selfish to burden them with our own needs, instead of helping them.
 

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LizaSymonenko said:
Luke said:
I have trouble reconciling the Lord's view of marriage with married couples going off and becoming monks.
If both are willing, where's the problem?  ...especially, if they are beyond childbearing age... they are not shirking the "go forth and multiply" commandment.

The only "hindrance" I know...is anything that would add a burden on the monastic community.  That may be a debt that needs to be paid, or even an illness, where instead of "serving", the monk/nun is the one who needs to be served and looked after.

If that is the case, then it would be selfish to burden them with our own needs, instead of helping them.
I do know of cases where monasteries have allowed terminally ill people to live out their final days, weeks, months, years, whatever as a novice in a monastery, but every case usually involves a large endowment specifically for the care of the person, who does their best to live according to the rule of the monastery and not be a burden to the community.

But, yeah, if you're just looking for free hospice care in a monastery that's not equipped to do that, that's not cool.
 

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RobS said:
Is there anything immediate that would disqualify someone from becoming a monk?
Sure.  If the monks don't like you, you won't become a monk at that particular monastery.

So, I guess acting like a jackass would prevent one from being a monk.
 

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Tallitot said:
RobS said:
Is there anything immediate that would disqualify someone from becoming a monk?
Being a female.
Well, yes and no lol. https://oca.org/saints/lives/2012/03/10/100776-saint-anastasia-the-patrician-of-alexandria
 

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