Joseph Hazen
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If you were to name a school after a Western Orthodox saint, who would you choose and why?
St. Ambrose of Milan?JamesR said:along with the fact that he never had a good spiritual father to mentor or teach him proper theology.
He never spoke to him personally, he said somewhere in his confessions.Alpo said:St. Ambrose of Milan?JamesR said:along with the fact that he never had a good spiritual father to mentor or teach him proper theology.
That's sort of true. I've heard priests mispronounce his name as St. Columbia of Ionia. Poor St. Columba.neon_knights said:Columba. Nobody ever names anything after Columba.
Really? D'uh. I recall reading that it was sermons of St. Ambrose who made him open to Christianity and I assumed that of course he must have talked to him too. It's been too long since I opened my copy of Confesssions. Mea culpa.Cyrillic said:He never spoke to him personally, he said somewhere in his confessions.Alpo said:St. Ambrose of Milan?JamesR said:along with the fact that he never had a good spiritual father to mentor or teach him proper theology.
Now thats a trio of names thats quite distinctively western and i think would roll off the tongue more smoothly in english.Wilfrid of Ripon, Willibrord of Utrecht, or Boniface
My first thought and for the same reasons.IXOYE said:Saint Benedict. Saint Benedict of Nursia is a very well-known saint (from the West and venerated in the East and West) and his rule for monks is also well known.
Besides the fact that he has at least 100 schools and educational institutions name after him already, he is too late to be considered an official Saint for the Orthodox Churches.St. Thomas Aquinas?
Alfred the Great is not a saint. Perhaps Edward the Confessor, but he was canonized late, in the 12th century.Shanghaiski said:St. Alfred's. After the English king St. Alfred the Great, who saved the kingdom from Viking invasion on one hand and ignorance on the other through educational reforms. He founded schools, contributed to Anglo-Saxon literature, and was sort of a Renaissance man.
Alfred the Great, King of the English, was known for his holy life and dedication to education. He is an Orthodox saint.Frederic said:Alfred the Great is not a saint. Perhaps Edward the Confessor, but he was canonized late, in the 12th century.Shanghaiski said:St. Alfred's. After the English king St. Alfred the Great, who saved the kingdom from Viking invasion on one hand and ignorance on the other through educational reforms. He founded schools, contributed to Anglo-Saxon literature, and was sort of a Renaissance man.
Pretty much half of the RC schools here, and the RC bible translation, is named after St. Willibrord. He's the St. Patrick of the Low Countries.age234 said:Wilfrid of Ripon, Willibrord of Utrecht, or Boniface of Germany: all important evangelist figures who deserve far more recognition than they receive.
Thank you for the information. His name is not mentioned in all calendars, and not in the Russian calendar I'm using.Shanghaiski said:Alfred the Great, King of the English, was known for his holy life and dedication to education. He is an Orthodox saint.Frederic said:Alfred the Great is not a saint. Perhaps Edward the Confessor, but he was canonized late, in the 12th century.Shanghaiski said:St. Alfred's. After the English king St. Alfred the Great, who saved the kingdom from Viking invasion on one hand and ignorance on the other through educational reforms. He founded schools, contributed to Anglo-Saxon literature, and was sort of a Renaissance man.
From this site: http://orthodoxengland.org.uk/saintsa.htm
Alfred the Great Oct 26
849-899. King of Wessex and all Orthodox England who defeated the Danish invaders and ensured the growth of the Church in England. A patron of sacred learning, Alfred the Great himself translated into English such works as the Dialogues of St Gregory the Great. His memory is held by many in great veneration as a patriot and model of Orthodox kingship.
Not even all Eastern saints make it into calendars. Even the St. Herman Brotherhood calendar is incomplete. There are many saints who have been venerated locally for centuries and are just beginning to be put into big compilations of calendars and synaxaria.Frederic said:Thank you for the information. His name is not mentioned in all calendars, and not in the Russian calendar I'm using.Shanghaiski said:Alfred the Great, King of the English, was known for his holy life and dedication to education. He is an Orthodox saint.Frederic said:Alfred the Great is not a saint. Perhaps Edward the Confessor, but he was canonized late, in the 12th century.Shanghaiski said:St. Alfred's. After the English king St. Alfred the Great, who saved the kingdom from Viking invasion on one hand and ignorance on the other through educational reforms. He founded schools, contributed to Anglo-Saxon literature, and was sort of a Renaissance man.
From this site: http://orthodoxengland.org.uk/saintsa.htm
Alfred the Great Oct 26
849-899. King of Wessex and all Orthodox England who defeated the Danish invaders and ensured the growth of the Church in England. A patron of sacred learning, Alfred the Great himself translated into English such works as the Dialogues of St Gregory the Great. His memory is held by many in great veneration as a patriot and model of Orthodox kingship.
"Never been named a saint" is pretty absolutist, Father, considering that most of our saints were added to the calendar not through formal processes, but by writing their names in and being venerated locally. It's clear St. Alfred is venerated by many Orthodox, in England especially.Fr.Aidan said:Just confirming: King Alfred has never been named a Saint by any Orthodox Church, Western or Eastern. It was the protestant Anglicans who first declared him a saint, in the 19th century.