yeshuaisiam said:
Greatest I am said:
JamesR said:
I've been waiting for this moment for a long time. I'm infuriated at God and lack any form of respect for Him whatsoever.
Apart from the typical dissatisfaction with my life that everybody has--which I think is justified in my circumstances--I'm angry at Him for many things. I'm mad at God for taking my miscarried sister, allowing all of this bad and evil to happen in the world while doing absolutely nothing whatsoever, for creating all of us against our will when I think non-existence would be more desirable. I'm mad at God for being a Divine Jigsaw who forces all of us into existence and forces each of us to play His divine game of chess where the repercussions for failure are eternal Hellfire. And still, no option to forfeit our existence and not play. I'm mad at God for doing nothing about all those poor people and prostitutes I see on the street; I'm mad at Him for staying silent all the time, I'm mad at Him for giving us boring rules to live by like chastity when promiscuity and badness seem so much more fun and natural. I'm mad at Him for outlawing everything and anything even remotely fun; I'm mad at Him for entrusting His true faith to a bunch of annoying Greek nationalists. I'm mad at Him I have to worship Him or else suffer...
God isn't a very likable guy when you really think about it.
You are being politically correct. Some do not bother.
“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
― Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion
Regards
DL
Ironic that God would form man in his image. Ironic that he would create the beauty of nature. Ironic that he'd create puppies. Odd that he'd create sugar and food that tastes good. Why based on definition above?
You like meat? You like lamb? You like hamburgers done right? You like BBQ? PORTER HOUSE? God created all of these things and GAVE MAN DOMINION OVER THEM.
God gave us senses, emotions, etc. He gave us love. If you snorkel in the tropics you'll see the beauty of his creation even in the ocean reefs.
God loves us more than anybody can imagine.
We as fallen people (no thanks to the serpent) found that we could not accept all this wonder and beauty and wanted more. Thus discontentedness rose up in us, and our sinful nature is enslaved to a false light of fake liberty. The next thing you know there is a thread about being angry at God for not "being good enough" for us.
You need to listen to this Bishop when he speaks of the fallen people.
I have it in this potential O.P.
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Is self-deprecation an insult to God, --- who can only create perfection?
Deuteronomy 32:4
He is the Rock, his work is perfect:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1RuyPAIwK8
The reason most do not recognize the perfection of all things is that they have bought into the idea that Jesus dies for their retched souls that even in their perfection, cannot get themselves into heaven without making God a despicable child abuser.
God’s best works, --- mankind, --- seems to not recognize that it is perfect. Growing up is simply moving ones initial perfection to a more perfect state. A strange use of language, but if you are an American, you should have no problem as it is the language of your constitution.
Either Christians ignore that God creates all things perfect, or the bible lies. In scriptures, perfection never loses it’s perfection. If it did, God himself might be in jeopardy. It shows that perfection being passed down the generations.
Many Christians self–deprecate. They name themselves worthless, fallen, retched, not deserving of self-respect etc.
Meanwhile the bible shows God even angry with angels that will not bow down to man. God seems to think we are hot stuff so why do Christians not believe it. Why believe the idiocy that we are born in sin and that God has to have his own son murdered to save us from himself.
The moral of the crucifixion is selflessness. Not salvation for perfect souls that God would not and could not condemn. God is in everything and he, like us, is evolving perfection. God would not condemn a part of himself.
God is in and is everything. If you cannot see God in all, then you cannot see God at all. Harbhajan Singh Yogi
Matthew 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Jesus was not sent to die for you as you were never condemned. He was sent, by himself, so to speak, to recruit you and make you his brethren. His concern was to make you the best human he could. He knew that your soul would find it’s way to heaven on it’s own. God had taken care of that already.
2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Jesus would never condone substitutionary atonement. It is equivalent to human sacrifice and Jesus would never teach such an immoral practice. Only those of little faith would think that God would create us for less than the best possible end and that would include Jesus and everything he did and that would not include an immoral blemish like his teaching us that there is anything good in substitutionary atonement and human sacrifice.
Here Jesus tells you how you should think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded
Here is a way to get to the right thinking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdSVl_HOo8Y
Regards
DL
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